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Osama Dust Bin is Dead. Strange because he died nearly 10 years ago .

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Today you are being asked to believe that American Special Forces found The Dust Bin alive and killed him , a few hours ago .
Fantastic
Super .
Just what we all are pleased to hear
But is it true ?

Amazing . This guy was more dead than alive in early December 2001 with chronic renal failure and all the hallmarks of having suffered a stroke and being a diabetes sufferer . Yet he lived for almost another decade?
A miracle
It means that all those people who said they attended his funeral in late December of 2001 are then presumably fantasy merchants and calculating liars .
All those world experts who said  all of his videos after October 2001 are fakes  , are either hopelessly idiotic or deliberate liars .

And now-- a decade after looking as though he had only days to live -- incredibly The Dust Bin has been  found along with two of his wives and some of his children and killed in cold blood .

But there is no body . Can you believe it ?   Because straightaway he was buried at sea "in line with Islam process and tradition".  Even a junior CIA officer would have made sure that he was photographed close up and from every angle in front of several truly independent witnesses with clear proof of the time .Even a congenital idiot would have taken several DNA samples in the presence of several independent and world respected witnesses and doctors .
The whole story stinks to high heaven and is so riddled with nonsense that it will be just a short time before everything rebounds on this latest piece of American rubbish .

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Quid prodest?

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"An anonymous US official has said that Usama bin Laden is dead and has been buried at sea". Well, it doesn't get much more vague than that, does it? And as for verification, we are left with hearsay, the source of information being little more than a gaggle of grannies at the bakery. And already a fake photo.

These days news is frequently broken as gossip. Nudge, nudge, hey have you heard the news? Someone heard the butcher's wife saying she heard someone at the hairdresser say that that actor, what's his name? You know, that actor, he's gay!! He isn't going anywhere near my children!

And now for something totally indifferent...an unnamed official says that Usama bin Laden has been killed in a firefight with US special forces a decade after the Afghanistan offensive was launched, 12 years after the same Usama bin Laden was seen critically ill being treated for kidney problems in a Middle East clinic, in Abbottabad, 50 km. from Islamabad in Pakistan.

The problem is, can anyone seriously believe a word the bought media says these days, and particularly when the source is in the USA or UK? The lies leading up to the invasion of Iraq (unfounded reports that Saddam Hussein's government had Weapons of Mass Destruction posing an immediate threat to the USA and its allies, nonsensical forged documents stating that the same government had tried to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger, and then the thesis copied and pasted from the Net - Colin Powell's "wonderful intelligence" from an MI6 clerk who fabricated a casus belli in ten seconds flat), the lies leading up to the invasion of Libya, and the untrue, unfounded and wholly undeserved demonology surrounding Muammar Al-Qathafi (terrorists being passed off as unarmed civilians) destroyed any thread of credibility these sources may have had.

Thus is the death of Usama bin Laden a replay of the "death" of Saddam Hussein? Pravda.Ru reported at the time that prior to the invasion in 2003, the last time Saddam Hussein had been seen was back in 1998, looking seriously ill lying on a stretcher with cancer of the lymph glands, weighing some 48 kilos and yellow in complexion. Five years later there he is looking 10 years younger with a different set of teeth and a totally different jawbone structure. "He must be dead because I saw the hanging scene on the Net". No you did not. In fact the only thing you do NOT see in that puerile reconstruction is the actual hanging itself.

Did Saddam Hussein die long before the invasion, and was the invasion because the allies suspected that the regime was using doubles to perpetuate its existence, deciding to go in before Al-Qaeda could get its hands on the weapons programmes? We will never know.

Neither will we know the truth about Usama bin Laden, unless there is some better documented evidence than hearsay and no body. The first reports say he had a Muslim burial at sea, now there are rumours the Americans have the body. A false photograph circulated around the Internet of a bloodied face supposed to be that of Usama bin Laden. But it wasn't. Does it make any difference anyway? Not really. Al-Qaeda, as it exists, is a very loosely-organized and so far amateurish collection of motley wannabes who have trouble setting fire to their shoes or underpants in passenger aircraft. Let us be honest: if I wanted to, which I don't, I could do far more on my own with access to the type of money Al-Qaeda is supposed to have. The mind boggles as to how this group of incompetents pulled off a stint like 9/11...

By now Usama bin Laden would have decentralised the command and control of his operation (being the excellent operational he was) and the chain of command anyway was horizontal and not vertical, matters being organized by regional cells financed from the central kitty.

With many hands now having access to this kitty, the supposed death of Usama bin Laden seems more like a publicity stunt for a President with flagging popularity ratings at home, much as Bush played the bin Laden card shortly before his re-election.

As for me, until more credible evidence appears on the death of America's most wanted man, I am totally and wholly unimpressed and as sceptical as I always am about everything the bought media says, something which goes for the representatives of the regimes in Washington on either side of the political fence.

Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey
Pravda.Ru

It only proves that we are being told lies by everybody and everywhere.And not only Russian "idiots", everybody is being constantly fooled , even the snobbiest British snob.

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What a strange comment Bella . The Pravda article says everything about  Osama that  I have already said and posted ,  and several hours ago I also  posted again -- see the words below ---on the Yahoo News site
However it is gratifying that at last you agree with my long held contention that the Mainstream Media world wide has little that is useful to say any more . Only careful and discriminating use of the Internet will get you anywhere near the Truth on important matters .
You, in particular ,  must learn to distinguish between Truth , Sometimes Truth , Occasional Truth , Disinformation and complete rubbish .
A body like the BBC gets the best ratings in the world for approaching Truth , whereas Russian media cannot be trusted at face value at any time --- there is even emerging evidence now that the whole Gagarin flight was pure nonsense from beginning to end -- which will upset many patriots .
My specific dislike of the Pravda author ( FSB ? ) is that he is so obviously unprofessional and misinformed or just a seller of poor quality lies .

Example : " An unnamed official says .... "
No . Silly Timothy . The President of the United States of America said it , you blathering idiot .

Example : WMD part truths
There is evidence that Biological and Chemical weapons were buried in Iraq  and some shipped to Syria and this in itself made the Iraq war reasonable and worthy of justification .The West has preferred to keep that almost a secret -- for fairly obvious reasons -- and the Pravda writer knows this if he is a professional , but chooses never to mention this material . Lies through omission .

Example : the Saddam Hussain stories . Such stories are easy to make up . There is not the slightest shred of sensibly supporting evidence that I have ever seen or even heard of .
Pravda is undiluted propaganda of a very amateur standard .

I am very suspicious at this point of the American claim .
All the evidence suggested that Dust Bin had died of renal failure compounded by diabetes and post stroke effects in December 2001.Details are well documented in the public domain--- if you know where to look--- plus testimony from two persons who attended his funeral .Since then , many experts claim that the post October 2001 Osama Videos are fakes and show compelling evidence to support their assertions .
Now , Hey Presto , we have a new story that has no body proof , plus claimed DNA results within hours , even though such results typically take a week to produce .
It stinks , in my opinion , that there is no video evidence of the body having DNA taken and witnessed by a minimum of three( say) independent , universally respected individuals . This would have been the first consideration in a real scenario and one which even a very junior figure would have insisted on from the outset . It took me about one minute to spot the flaws and various other factors from first hearing the claim .
I fear that the whole 9/11 saga is deeply flawed from start until today but it might take a long time before the full truth emerges .
Certainly , on the evidence so far , I very much doubt that Osama was found and killed yesterday .

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